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Corrupt traffic police Argentina (Straßen & Routen)

Travelgiant, Donnerstag, 04. Januar 2018, 16:24 (vor 108 Tagen)

Corrupt traffic police Argentina

Sunday the 17 th of december, our second day in Argentina, we passed at about 80 km east of Santa Fé (RN 18) a fixed checkpoint of the traffic police. We had to show all our papers (driver's license, license plate and insurance) on which the car was checked carefully. It was immediately clear to us that they were looking for something to keep us up anyway. And yes, they saw the towbar. This should not sit on it. I said that I was not aware of this, especially since the previous day when I was entering Argentina nothing was said about it (incidentally I did my story entirely with Google translate because none of the servers spoke English and I do not speak Spanish).
My driver's license and registration card were confiscated and I had to report in their office, which was on site. There I was told that I had to pay 5.750 Pesos (US dollar 300, -!) Fine. However, I had already read on I Overlander that this checkpoint was manned by corrupt servants and that paying by road does not legally have to be done in Argentina. I was offered a discount of 50% if I would pay cash on the spot. I refused and offered to solve the "problem" on the spot by unscrewing the tow bar. The officer informed me that I could do that, but that it was too late for the fine. I continued to refuse to pay and started to release the tow bar. from my car.
All in all, after one and a half hour of delays, I put the loose towing hook at the desk on his desk. I had the impression that he was beginning to understand that I was not going to pay anyway. He started scanning my driver's license and I got it back, along with the registration card. He then informed me that later on, at the next checkpoint, I would be arrested again and that I would then have to pay the full pound (!?). I have accepted this for notification and we have driven away. Afterwards we passed three police checks around Santa Fé that same afternoon, but we did not hold on to that day (anymore). Now, after four days of Argentina, we have passed 18 police blockades together and held up for a total of 7 (!) Times.
Moral of the story: DO NOT PAY ALONG THE ROAD IF YOU ARE IMPROVED BY THE POLICE IN ARGENTINA !!! (and certainly not if it is, according to your firm conviction, an unjustified matter).

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Corrupt traffic police Argentina

IVECO Tony @, Wherever., Freitag, 05. Januar 2018, 09:33 (vor 107 Tagen) @ Travelgiant

Print some of these out and start filling it in

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BzruF5mXGaoZfnYyS200SC1taUtDUVpBS0pQekV2UzR...

Argentina do have an official corruption complaint form (which is the basis for all of these) and you can fill it out online, but a paper one on the desk would have a more immediate effect

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Corrupt traffic police Argentina

twoglobetrotters, Sonntag, 07. Januar 2018, 16:59 (vor 105 Tagen) @ IVECO Tony

Diese Formulare, welche Tony geschickt hat sind gut, nur das für Brasilien ist falsch. Das ist wohl von Google Übersetzt worden und jeder Polizist sieht das sofort.

Ich könnte bei der Übersetyung helfen, weiss aber nicht wie ich das im Formular machen kann.

Tony, would you know how to change it?

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IVECO Tony @, Wherever., Dienstag, 09. Januar 2018, 08:22 (vor 103 Tagen) @ twoglobetrotters

It could be that all the forms have some translation errors because I don't know exactly where they came from originally. I guess the one for Brazil is even more likely to have errors since it is in Portuguese.

If you want to correct it and email it to me at tony.lee.02@gmail.com then I can post up a corrected version. Or just give me the wrong bits of text together with correct text in an email

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Corrupt traffic police Argentina

bindokat @, Sonntag, 07. Januar 2018, 02:43 (vor 105 Tagen) @ Travelgiant

You have right....

Don´t pay the cops in Latin america ! :-D

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IVECO Tony @, Wherever., Dienstag, 09. Januar 2018, 08:28 (vor 103 Tagen) @ bindokat

That is certainly the correct way to approach it but I'd suggest that isn't always so easy to do if you are on your own surrounded by three or four police intent on extracting some christmas party money - especially if it is essentially a fair cop such as no lights on or crossing double lines which I have been caught for but never paid a fine - twice because they were happy just to let me know they COULD have fined me and once because he got so greedy with the amount of the fine that he realised he had gone way too far. I was also sitting in a Yank-Tank with my wife so that extends my comfort zone a lot.

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Tony Lee
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Travels map at https://spotwalla.com/tripViewer.php?id=5cfc50ef7ac22ca2d&hoursPast=2400&...

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