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Stromkabel auf Campingplätzen? (Sonstiges)

Bernd, Samstag, 20. Juni 2015, 13:30 (vor 3230 Tagen)

Hallo zusammen,

kommt man in Südamerika mit unserem normalen CEE-Kabel zum Anschluss des Wohnmobils ans Stromnetz auf den Campingplätzen aus, oder bedarf es eines Adapters?
Oder lieber gleich Kabel vor Ort kaufen?

Danke und Gruss,
Bernd

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Stromkabel auf Campingplätzen?

IVECO Tony @, Wherever., Samstag, 20. Juni 2015, 14:33 (vor 3230 Tagen) @ Bernd

Had a long detailed reply written but it vanished into cyberspace

On the basis of a picture being worth a thousand words, here is my thousand words at
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-g1omajOvdcM/UvEjb0vfsvI/AAAAAAAAUx8/YoqEby...

and

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-xKv24T3-F1I/UvEjdJywPeI/AAAAAAAAR4Y/UKoY7P...

and ...

But briefly, your EU plug is very unlikely to fit any outlet in the whole of the Americas and especially thiose in the majority of countries that use 120V 60Hz.

Of the rest in S America that have something close to 230V 50HZ, nearly all have their own pattern and/or US outlets. Brazil has both 240V and 120V 60hz often side by side and sometimes not well marked.

No ground wire is pretty standard.

Any well-equipped US and Canadian RV will carry these adaptors

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-wRC-pyQe5w4/UQbfRLx-tgI/AAAAAAAAVOk/sHk5SH...
Unlike in Australia where some get very precious about sticking to the rules regarding caravan leads, the US scene is a bit more pragmatic - summed up by "whatever works"
The large cord at the top is the 50 amps per phase two phase and neutral lead to connect with the supply normally available in most RV parks and needed to power the three rooftop AC units, 80 amp battery charger, twin fridge-freezers, icemakers, dishwashers and espresso coffee makers that come as standard equipment in any proper Class A

If you are slumming it and there is only a 30 amp single phase supply available then you need the yellow dongle that connects three wires to four .
Then if you are still power-less, you need the bakelite adaptor that connects the 30 amp three pin plug and the 15 amp outlet.

Then another step down in the supply chain comes a converter that screws in to an Edison screw light fitting to take a 15A plug. Obviously proper earthing doesn't play a part in the quest for a perfect cup of coffee.

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Tony Lee
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Stromkabel auf Campingplätzen?

IVECO Tony @, Wherever., Samstag, 20. Juni 2015, 14:47 (vor 3230 Tagen) @ IVECO Tony

in Brazil

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-K8481AVd69g/VA4_DYf3K9I/AAAAAAAAXPc/AtOjPK... which is captioned "State of the art campground electrics - NOT.
The yellow wires are the aerials that run from tree to tree. No earth - and I have committed all sorts of wiring rule infractions by cutting a two core cord in half, baring the ends and wrapping them around the pins on my supply cord and taping over the lot securely. Then file down the US large flat pin so it fits into the brazil flat pin socket.
I promise to make up something a bit more permanent as soon as we hit town tomorrow."


Some very wise travellers install an inverter and batteries to supply all of their on-board appliances and then add enough solar to keep them charged under normal circumstances.

Then they have a multivoltage battery charger with the standard EU plug and then they have a basic set of adaptors. That way they are totally isolated from crappy power supplies and it doesn't matter what country they are in.

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Tony Lee
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Stromkabel auf Campingplätzen?

IVECO Tony @, Wherever., Samstag, 20. Juni 2015, 14:50 (vor 3230 Tagen) @ IVECO Tony
bearbeitet von IVECO Tony, Samstag, 20. Juni 2015, 15:08

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AC_power_plugs_and_sockets

The other thing that is very useful is about 50 metres of extension cords so you can get power from the hotel or restaurant in whose carpark you are "camping" in.

iOverlander.com site will give you some idea of what "camping areas" facilities you can expect to find.

I bought a US truck camper with US electrical system so apart from Brazil, it has been pretty much unused. Previous vehicle was a UK Iveco which we dumped after the first tripo so I kept all the electrical gear (except for the UK outlets) and installed a completely isolated, double insulated second system with EU cord plus a growing box of adaptors, a circuit breaker and Argentinian-pattern power outlet which fits our Australian stuff, plus a 230V battery charger as well. Not ideal, but at least we have fairly normal facilities inside whenever we can get power.

Here at Qinta LaLa in Cusco, the wiring system is very primitive and there are several different styles of outlets to choose from. None have earth wires. Get used to it.

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Tony Lee
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Stromkabel auf Campingplätzen?

el emigrante@, Samstag, 20. Juni 2015, 21:13 (vor 3230 Tagen) @ Bernd

Adapter sind in jedem Baumarkt , oder Ferreteria zu finden.
Sollte dies mal nicht der Fall sein , einfach einen Ortsüblichen Stecker kaufen und den Deutschen tauschen ,funktioniert in ganz Südamerika.


Saludos desde chile

Danke an Tony & el emigrante

Bernd, Sonntag, 21. Juni 2015, 13:40 (vor 3229 Tagen) @ Bernd

Danke an Euch...Dann bring ich mal mein deutsches Kabel mit :-)
Bernd

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